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July 7, 2009

The Reason Behind the Core Knowledge Section?

Filed under: Cisco,Cisco Certification — cciepursuit @ 11:37 am
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CCIE Journey recently attended Networkers in SF and has a nice recap of the event, particularly from a CCIE candidate’s perspective.  Definitely surf on over and give it a read.

There was a lot of speculation that the recent introduction of the Core Knowledge section to the CCIE lab was to curb cheating via leaked or brain-dumped labs.  A lot of that speculation centered around the Beijing, China lab location.  CCIE Journey’s post contains a nugget that may give validation to some of that speculation:

Monday was my eight hour lab day with a lab written by a proctor just for Cisco Live. We learned a lot in that class. We learned that the pass rate of the Beijing lab was running at 90% before they implemented the open-ended questions.

CCIE Journey shares my concern that we’re all now paying the price for possible rampant cheating at a specific location.  There is a possible bright side to this though:

He [the proctor] also hinted that the open-ended questions were a quick band aid for stopping the brain dumps and might come off in the near future. Maybe the troubleshooting section of the 4.0 lab will be enough?

I think that this makes sense.  Troubleshooting is a better filter than a four question quiz.  I tend to doubt that the Core Knowledge section will go away though.  The Core Knowledge questions are only ever used one time.  This means that they are essentially “un-dumpable”.  Of course, it also means that the questions may have the tendency to become more and more difficult as the obvious questions are used and discarded.


  1. Funny I was in Don slice Eigrp session I didnt even smell a blogger LOL. It was one hell of a party the last night!!!


    Comment by Tony — July 8, 2009 @ 7:51 am | Reply

  2. I don’t smell like Pursuit… 😛

    Comment by CCIEJourney — July 8, 2009 @ 9:45 pm | Reply

  3. LOL I dont think anyone does lol. Bluecat all the way LOL


    Comment by Tony — July 9, 2009 @ 1:46 pm | Reply

  4. Oh god, I hope you two didn’t meet up at Networkers. That would truly be an axis of evil.

    @Tony – at least when I fart it doesn’t smell like trail mix and lost gerbil. 🙂

    Comment by cciepursuit — July 9, 2009 @ 2:19 pm | Reply

  5. Ahhhh the Bluecat girls… We could of did a dual vblog all about CCIE Pursuit!!!!!

    Comment by CCIEJourney — July 9, 2009 @ 4:53 pm | Reply

  6. LMAO!!! It still makes you hungry when I fart though. Unitard bluecat girls FTW!!!


    Comment by Tony — July 10, 2009 @ 8:56 am | Reply

  7. I have no problem with the OEQs and the upcoming Troubleshooting section addition, but this lab in Beijing should of been shutdown immediately after this 90% statistic was found out. From what’s been mentioned on (unsupervised lunches, and phone calls?), this is Cisco’s fault for having totally lax lab security compared to the other Labs.

    Comment by I AM NOT DARBY WEAVER — July 11, 2009 @ 2:21 am | Reply

  8. Gosh,

    Someone is lame enough to “NOT BE DARBY WEAVER”…

    How’s that work I wonder?

    I guess I could start posting and saying I’m not me.

    FYI – Give credit where it is due. I was asked and I answered. Has it even been a full week yet or maybe two and voila!!! We got OEQ for SP.

    I wonder if/when we will get the other goodies.


    Comment by Darby Weaver — December 9, 2009 @ 10:27 pm | Reply

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